Valentine 1 -v- Arizona DPS Photo Radar Van


www.GPSdetector.com for further info on GPS camera detectors. This video *********** OK, so Redflex have possibly come up with a real game changer. Photo radar vans that cannot be detected before 300 feet, and that take your picture at 200 feet. Yes, that means 100 feet reaction time and slowing distance. If your radar detector cost you less than $400 – time to change approach. Mark locations on a Cheetah GPS speed camera detector. Important info for V1 users ***************************** This video is not meant to be a criticism of the V1 in any way. The point of the video is not to show how little warning the V1 gives for this new threat. Rather the point is to show that if a detector as good as the V1 only gets this much range, imagine how bad all the others must be!!! The V1 is still one of the best out there and that’s why we use it (every day!) In fact, this individual V1 unit is “famously” good on K Band. It was tested by GOL (www.GuysofLidar.com) and outperformed all others on K Band. You should consider it a “juiced” unit for K band performance. That’s why we chose it for these test runs against this new K band threat. 80% of radar detectors on the US market do not even register an alert for these new camera vans until you are past them and have a ticket. This is a game changing radar camera system. It is completely different to the radar you encounter in police cruisers. In this video, the V1 is mounted lower for ease of filming. We did have the V1 mounted high

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stenmeister1989 May 11, 2010 at 9:44 pm

any high end radar detector is still better than this gps unit because they always move the photo radar van. unless you are going rediculously above the speed limit I have time to slow down at the first bleep. VALENTINE ONE FTW!

all im trying to say is that the v1 still gives enough warning to slow down.

surprisinguy May 11, 2010 at 10:12 pm

I’ve been reading up on your product for 2 days now and I must say it is definitely complimentary to the V1 (I have one). I’m just wondering if I need one in NC. I dont think there are any speed cams used here (yet). Oh, and the badfish guy def has a problem and I’m sure most folks recognize that.

CXensation May 11, 2010 at 10:25 pm

Whats the cost of a cruise control compared to a radar warning device ?

Jackcc5 May 11, 2010 at 11:22 pm

@speedcheetah how does the escort passport 8500 X50 do against this type of radar

drewdude320i May 12, 2010 at 12:10 am

Very true. I drove through Arizona last year at about 1 AM, came across a temporary road sign that was BACKWARDS on the side of the road. About 15 seconds later, big flash.I assume the backwards sign was the “photo enforcement ahead” sign. Almost got in a wreck because of it, but they weren’t concerned.

rnw124 May 12, 2010 at 12:22 am

The cams are set to snap at 11mph over. You need to be doing 76 in order for it to go off.

TheSofaFox May 12, 2010 at 1:08 am

Hope you guys are able to get rid of this crap. One reason I’m happy to live in texas, the state senators themselves would shoot any they saw here.

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 1:27 am

Uh, OK

jparish62 May 12, 2010 at 1:59 am

I would honestly have to say that you shouldn’t be speeding in the first place…

pbanders May 12, 2010 at 2:25 am

This is great info, thanks a bunch. I thought those vans must be running something new, I thought my V1 needed service because it alerted so late.

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 2:26 am

Your point should also mean that the fixed cameras which never move should never catch any drivers out because they have warning signs. That’s not what happens in practice. You could pass the same camera for hundreds of times and the one time you forget it’s there because you’re distracted for some reason, you get a ticket.

That’s the point of our product: to make sure that if you have been distracted, you get a reminder to help you focus again, so you avoid a ticket.

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 2:54 am

That’s a fair point in theory, but over 100,000 AZ drivers can confirm that it’s not like that in practice. What if you missed the warning sign because it was obscured by other traffic, or you weren’t paying attention for a brief second (we all do that.) There are many reasons why you can miss a sign, assuming the Redflex employees (not DPS Staff) managed to put the sign up properly in the first place.

UnknownOconnor May 12, 2010 at 3:12 am

Two questions:

Is the cheetah C100 the same as the Cheetah sentinel?

Is this arizona radar van running Multaradar C?

This video shows the escort passport 8500 x50 in action against Multaradar C (in Europe): ?v=7xXKV7iWbyY

skutnik23 May 12, 2010 at 3:29 am

Thats a pretty good detector however AZ DPS are required to post PHOTO ENFORCEMENT signs almost 1/8 of a mile before the photo vehicles to let you know you’re coming up on one, so you either have to be blind or a complete idiot to get a ticket. And yes, I do live here.

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 3:40 am

Badfish, I’ve tried to be patient and professional and explain how our product can help but this has now gone on long enough. I’m sure every other reader can understand my replies but for some reason you seem incapable of grasping the explanations. You’re either being deliberately obtuse or there is another agenda here.

If you have something constructive to add then please post a comment. If you keep coming back with the same mis-informed nonsense then I have no choice but to block you..

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 3:58 am

Saying the C100 is inferior to the V1 is like saying cars are inferior to motorcycles. You’re not comparing apples with apples. They are completely different products that deal with completely different threats. There is no comparison. They both complement each other and work together.

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 4:16 am

Badfish, Much as I’ve enjoyed our little debate, you are either not reading any of my replies or you are “hard of thinking!”

I’ll repeat myself for the last time. These are the threats that the Valentine 1 DOES NOT ALERT TO:

1. Red light cameras
2. Speed cameras
3. Speed-on-Green red light cameras
4. Point-to-point speed cameras

In addition it is virtually useless (like all other radar detectors) against Instant On radar (which is the point of a GPS mobile trap site alert.

MrBadfish2 May 12, 2010 at 4:27 am

Why spend more money on an inferior product? I have avoided at least 200+ speedtraps and many laser traps with my V1… No tickets yet. Why would I need to buy another product when the Valentine 1 alone handles ALL threats?

Oldest saying out there.. If it ain’t broke.. Don’t fix it.

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 4:54 am

Detecting LIDAR is virtually pointless. In all but a very rare set of circumstances, it only means that you already got the ticket. You need to check out effective laser jammers like Blinder or Laser Interceptor, but please be aware they are illegal to use in California.

For complete protection you therefore need a GPS detector, a radar detector and a laser jammer. Cheetah GPS detectors are the only ones that let all three parts of your defense work together as one complete integrated system.

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 5:12 am

Of course we’re not competing against the V1. We make a Cheetah Radar Detector Interface to plug into the V1 to help with false alarm suppression.

We don’t make Radar Detector Interfaces for all radar detectors, only the good ones. If we didn’t rate the V1, we wouldn’t have bothered to make an interface for it, now would we?

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 5:49 am

As the average red light camera ticket in California has now gone up to $436, rather than bashing our product, I would recommend you watch some of the other videos on the C100 to see how it can enhance your V1 experience.

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 6:17 am

You’re not looking at the bigger picture. You’re only looking at mobile camera vans. The Valentine 1 is great for detecting radar but it doesn’t alert to red light cameras, speed cameras, speed-on-green red light cameras or point-to-point average speed cameras. It doesn/’t give you reminders about well known speed trap areas where the police might be using Instant On or laser. You can’t mark locations on the Valentine 1. You can’t update it through the internet. That’s what the C100 is for.

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 6:53 am

And that’s the point. All K band sources are detected. This includes every Wallgreens, CVS, gas station and mall car park because automatic doors mostly use K Band radar in the police spectrum. These are the most annoying false alarms for most radar detector users. When you hook up a C100 to the Valentine 1 using a Cheetah Radar Detector Interface, the C100 can get rid of these falses using speed-sensitive automatic muting.

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 7:31 am

Mobile camera reminders on the C100 do not mean that the camera is necessarily there at that exact moment in time. They mean that you are approaching a location where police are well known to set up mobile traps, so be on the look out in this area.

speedcheetah May 12, 2010 at 7:59 am

I’ll say it again. The Cheetah C100 is not a radar detector so it doesn’t detect radar. It alerts to locations that are stored in its database and memory. The point of the product is to alert to fixed speed cameras, red light cameras, speed-on-green, point-to-point cameras, etc. It can help for mobile traps by alerting to the fixed locations where they are often set up, or by alerting to locations that they mark themselves.

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